Secret Society of Pick Up Artists
Anyway, my reasons for getting Ross’s speed seduction program was not because of a dry spell, you see, at that point in my life I was getting into contact with a lot of exceptional beautiful women, and many of them were slipping through my fingers for one reason or another. Some just wanted to be friends; some made some other excuse based on flaws in my character; while others made claims of having boyfriends; and I certainly wasn’t wasting money on any of them. I needed to circumvent this and I heard about Ross’s program. I got it, studied it and made improvements giving me a lot more opportunity and choices with any and all the women I come into contact with even if they have boyfriends or isn’t the type I usually got for.
Now that I was a student of Speed Seduction I became privy to his Speed Seduction forum discussion group where his students could discuss their success, their mistakes, what worked for them and what didn’t. However, I kept of hearing of live study groups in Los Angeles, Chicago, San Diego..etc. Hey, I asked, is there a study group in N.Y.C? Didn’t get a definite answer, but a dude name Studny contacted me off the group and told me that there is indeed a study group in NYC and that he’ll pass on my request to join. A couple of days later I got a message to join the NYCSF yahoo group after that the round table invitations came. The round table invitations announced the date and asked for confirmation that I plan to attend. It stated that the location will be announced a couple of hours before the meeting. The invitations announcement also stated that if I confirm that I’ll attend and fail to show up I will not receive another invitation. I guess the ones who weren’t serious were weeded out. I confirmed and got the location on the day of the event.
The Round Table
I got to the location to the setting of chairs arranged in a circle, with a board and easel on one side near the chairs. The guys came in and filled the chairs; I saw some familiar faces among the group. There was John the founder of the Somnambulistic Sleepwalkers and former Silvia Method instructor, he is now the owner of N.Y Hypnosis Center ( http://www.healthwithhypnosis.com/testimonials.htm), there was Marco, the NYC lair’s leader & one of the organizers, moderator of the NYCSF discussion group, and incidentally the leader of an NLP practice group; and Cliff a master hypnotist whom I met at one of George Bien’s seminars (www.georgebien.com). This first session was pretty interesting, techniques were discussed, and the board and easel was used to illustrate the techniques and to make things clear. There was a question and answer session also; then we go out to the field to practice what was taught (sarging). Out in the field we broke down into smaller groups, and went to the various establishments in the area. There were those who preferred to practice in bars, and there were those who didn’t. Wherever we preferred to practice the goal was to have fun. Whatever results happened was posted as a field report on the NYCSF discussion forum. I got to tell ya, the whole thing was excited and fun, good atmosphere and great people, not to mention interacting and seducing women and improving our game. The only cost to all this was a $10.00 donation to pay for the round table room, the subway ride and beer money if you decided to have a drink while sarging. The only blemish came when Mystery, yes the same one in the book; he was supposed to be a guest speaker at one of the round tables; but he didn’t show, his excuse was that the lair did not pay him.
Pick Up Artists
Well, all good things come to an end and the beginning of the end was the publication of The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pick up Artists, (Neil-Strauss-The-Game) and the lair started to move towards being pick up artists rather than seducers. As Marco put it when he left the community it was more like a badly held secret. The book the Game made it into the mainstream so the round tables were becoming more and more popular. At this point it is unknown if efforts are being made to keep it secret now. Also, many other lairs sprang up and all are competing for members. The new lairs are all profit based, promising the moon but all focused on short term relationships. Marco also found that many men never out grew the approach game to move on to healthier relationships, and that teaching a holistic approach just doesn’t appeal to the seduction market. As far as the techniques are concerned the approach is to teach a more “natural” style or at least make it look like it.
Awareness of the Game
Today, women are a lot more aware of the game approach, but usually to specific lines they read or heard about. Negging is by the far the most popularized and controversial technique but you also see this happening all the time with the “natural” players so it only changes the dynamic when the women shut down or the guy is doing it with a hostile intent. This is why many companies moved away from the Game and applying techniques by the book and more towards the “natural” style so it doesn’t seem so robotic and also for marketing purposes. The robotic stereo type became a joke and everyone wanted to seem more “evolved”… of course, the emphasis is still very much on the initial approach so there is not really much evolution. That’s just what sells and it definitely took away from the community.